Shoigu's plane aroused NATO's suspicions. “The pilot did not know that the Russian Minister of Defense “Vstrechi” was flying on a plane over the Baltic
As promised, we continue about the plane of the Ministry of Defense in the Seychelles.
It’s very funny how, after a week of silence, Shoigu’s department began to respond to us with posts from paid bloggers and LifeNews reports
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General response refrain: AAAAA!!! You spelled everything wrong. This is not corruption at all. It was not the generals who flew Shoigu on a plane to hang out in the Seychelles! This is the oligarch-politician Prokhorov on the plane Shoigu took girls to his party(sometimes the word " girls" is replaced by brighter epithets).
As evidence
are given "according to Lifenews" and these "photos of girls".
The great thing is that these posts usually stand between posts on the topic "We will show the pendos", "Forward, Russia", "Glory to the brave military" and "I will tie myself with a St. George's ribbon."
Excuse me, but I can hardly imagine that the "pendos" plane carries the Minister of Defense girls for parties in the Seychelles. It is difficult to consider this a source of pride for the armed forces. It is possible that this is exactly what happens in the armed forces of Albania, but we are a country with nuclear weapons and claiming global leadership.
You can't just pick up and go girls on the plane of the Minister of Defense.
So.
1. No one disputes that we were right and the flight was not official.
2. The question of who was on board remains open. Generals? girls? General girls? Generals girls?
3. It also remains an open question whether the flight is legal girls and other generals on this plane?
Let us pass to a review of some of the facts established by us after
1. As part of the units of the central subordination of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, there is an 800th air base (AvB) (military unit 15565), which is based in Chkalovsky: previously it was the 8th Special Purpose Air Division, which in 2009 became 6991 AVB, which in 2010 became 800 AvB. The 800 air base includes the 223 flight detachment, which can lease some of the aircraft that belong to this air base. 800 ABB through the 223rd flight unit performs commercial flights under the CHD code (CHD). Military flights are operated under the RFF code (RFF) - the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.
So, yes, we agreed, indeed, some aircraft can be used for commercial flights .
2. It is known for certain that the RA-85155 aircraft was transferred to the Ministry of Defense in April 2010 and is intended for the Minister of Defense. A distinctive feature of this particular side is the livery inscription - Russian Air Force , which by its very appearance indicates the military nature of the board
Moreover, the aircraft is equipped with flight and navigation equipment, special communications equipment that meets the needs of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.
3. It is noteworthy that from flightradar deleted in general all available scant data about the aircraft, which is quite unusual. Most likely this was done at the request of the military.
4. Could the 223rd flight detachment carry generals and girls to ride in violation of the law? At least they've been seen doing it before. We have a report of the Accounts Chamber for 1997-1998 on the inspection of the 8th Special Purpose Air Division and the 223rd Flight Detachment in particular, and there is a full bouquet of violations. The even chamber conducted an inspection of the 223rd flight detachment twice. The audit materials of 1998-99 shed light on a whole range of violations: waste, inefficient use of aircraft, transportation of favorite sports teams, etc.
And, surprise, these violations are exactly the same as what we accuse the MoD of today. All the same misuse, waste, etc. In 2013, another inspection was carried out. The Accounts Chamber reported on its results in December, but they did not publish the audit materials. We are confident that many interesting questions will be answered in this document. Therefore, we demand the publication of these materials. We have every right to know how taxpayers' funds are being used.
5. What do you need to do to charter a board 223LO?
If the 223rd Flight Detachment is going to send its aircraft somewhere, then for this it needs to coordinate with the air traffic controllers, airfield support, crew support, etc. - all this is called the organization and provision of air transportation of passengers, baggage and cargo. The contract for this is concluded through public procurement.
We called 223 LO to charter exactly the RA-85155, we were sent to an agent - a company called Themis. That is, it is Themis that is engaged in the chartering of this board. However, on the website of Themis itself, not only this particular aircraft, but also the Tu-154M aircraft in general, was not found. And at the moment, the list of boards has been completely removed from the site.. It is noteworthy that the 223rd Flight Detachment was completely closed after.
Nevertheless, Themis replied to an official request from the media that this aircraft carried 40 passengers and 3 tons of stage equipment within the specified time frame and offered to request a list of passengers at Vnukovo-3.
6. Despite such a cheerful answer, in the lists of aircraft that are transferred under the control of "Themis" board RA-85155 we did not find . Yes, and it would be strange the opposite - this is the plane of the Minister .
7. Lifenews reports that Andrey Makarevich was flying on this plane, to which Znak.com reasonably decided to ask Makarevich whether the trip took place. Andrei Makarevich confirmed that he spent the May holidays in the Seychelles. " Yes, we flew there, however, not on the plane in question, but on a regular, scheduled flight, - Mikhail celebrated his birthday (May 3, Prokhorov turned 49 years old - ed.) I can’t say on which plane Prokhorov flew there - when we arrived, he was already there.
That is, Makarevich did not fly with the girls-generals.
Thus, we fix the intermediate stage of our investigation. We have two forks:
a) generals or girls.
b) legal or illegal.
Four combinations are possible, but we are satisfied with only "legally generals".
"Generals illegally" and "girls illegally" are a criminal offence.
"Girls are legal" - well, this is a political question about the prestige of the country and a question about the quality of the work of special services.
Questions to which we are now seeking answers from Minister Shoigu:
1. On what basis is an aircraft equipped with flight and navigation equipment and special means of communication that meet the needs of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation handed over for transportation girls(if they were)? Doesn't this threaten the security of the Russian Federation? Could, for example, such shipments be a cover for the installation of spy equipment?
2. Are there any legal grounds for renting this particular aircraft? Based on the foregoing, we conclude that there are no such grounds.
3. If the Minister's aircraft is leased for commercial lease without legal grounds, then who takes the money from this lease?
Well, I immediately answer the question: why did you cling to the plane? no other problems?
There are other problems, but, no matter how ridiculous it sounds, when heifers are taken to the beach by the minister’s plane, this is an indicator of such a mess in the country, which makes this trifle a system-forming problem. This is an important defect of our state.
We want the planes of the Ministry of Defense to carry generals, officers, soldiers and Gattling guns. Let the girls be transported by commercial aviation.
NATO Air Force F-16 combat fighter tried to approach the board of the Minister of Defense Sergei Shoigu in the sky over the neutral waters of the Baltic, but he was "driven away" by the Su-27 of the Russian Aerospace Forces. In fact, the NATO pilot could be trying to repeat the maneuver of his Russian colleague, who on June 20 got close to one and a half meters with the US Air Force RC-135 reconnaissance aircraft, a military expert told the correspondent of the Federal News Agency Alexey Leonkov.
It is reported that an aircraft of the North Atlantic Alliance tried to escort Shoigu's plane when he was on a working visit to Kaliningrad. The special board, in which the minister was located, followed with an escort of several Su-27 naval aviation fighters. During the rendezvous between the F-16 and the minister's aircraft, a Su-27 wedged in, which, swinging its wings, showed its weapons to the NATO interceptor. After such a "hint", the Alliance pilot had to hurriedly turn off course and retreat.
“When a combat fighter accompanies a combat aircraft or a reconnaissance aircraft, this is a normal world practice, but no one knows when the D-day will come and when the combat aircraft can use its weapons. Such a tradition has developed between the pilots of the United States and Russia, and other countries as well, for a long time - they accompany our Tu-160 missile carriers, Tu-95 bombers, and we intercept their reconnaissance aircraft. But the problem is that Sergei Shoigu was flying not on a combat aircraft, but on a civilian one, which is part of the well-known “223rd Flight Detachment”, and therefore the F-16 rapprochement looks somehow ridiculous, ”the military analyst explains the situation.
The expert recalls that information about the flight of the Minister of Defense, its route and echelon is known to everyone, because not ordinary passengers are flying, but the second person after the Supreme Commander-in-Chief. Therefore, when an alien fighter flies very close and demonstrates its intentions, it makes you think.
“Imagine for a moment - the US Secretary of Defense is flying James Mattis, and then a Russian fighter flies up to his plane and begins to approach. What will happen? Of course, there will be a lot of shouting and yelling about the unprofessionalism of the Russian pilot. And the Americans will now try to justify themselves by the fact that the Su-27 showed that very unprofessionalism, although this is weakly drawn to justification. The Su-27 pilot took all the necessary steps to ensure that Sergei Shoigu's plane was safe. Everything was professional,” Alexey Leonkov continues.
In addition, the expert paid special attention to the “swinging of the wings”.
“Swinging wings is a long-standing unspoken tradition between pilots from different countries. Thus, they show that their aircraft are also armed and can fight back. This is a warning on the verge of decency, but this is only possible between combat aircraft. In no case can a combat aircraft demonstrate weapons suspended under its wings to civilian aircraft, ”says the speaker of the FAN.
The military analyst is sure that the incident itself was provoked by the desire of a NATO pilot to repeat the maneuver of a Russian colleague, who on June 20, while escorting a US Air Force RC-135, approached a reconnaissance at a distance of 5 feet (approximately 1.5 meters).
“The F-16 pilot tried to show that NATO also knows how to meticulously control the most complex military equipment at high altitude and at high speeds. Only the problem is that he was not allowed to complete a dangerous maneuver. The feint, roughly speaking, did not work out thanks to the professional actions of our VKS. But the life of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation could really be in danger, ”concluded Leonkov.
Recall that in Kaliningrad, Sergei Shoigu is holding an off-site meeting of the board of the military department, dedicated to security issues in the western strategic direction. According to the minister, NATO is increasing the intensity of operational and combat training near the Russian borders, which demonstrates the reluctance of Western partners to abandon the anti-Russian course.
The day before, a Russian Su-27 was rising to intercept an American RC-135 reconnaissance aircraft over the Baltic Sea. The ministry emphasized that all flights of Russian fighters over the neutral waters of the Baltic are carried out in strict accordance with international rules.
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Over the Baltic Sea on Wednesday, June 21, there was a rendezvous between Russian and US planes overboard, on which Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu was heading to Kaliningrad. Details about the incident were reported by TASS and Interfax correspondents who flew with the minister (at the same time, the reports of the agencies appeared on the tapes almost simultaneously at about 12:00 Moscow time on June 21).
According to unnamed journalists, NATO planes tried to escort the plane of the Russian Defense Minister over the neutral waters of the Baltic Sea when it was flying to Kaliningrad. The board, on which the head of the Ministry of Defense was located, followed with an escort consisting of Su-27 naval aviation fighters.
One of the NATO aircraft tried to approach the board of the Minister of Defense, but a Su-27 fighter from the escort stood between it and the Russian airliner. "The Su-27 demonstrated its armament to the NATO member by swinging its wings," both the TASS report and the Interfax report said. After that, the NATO F-16 went aside.
The footage of the rendezvous of the NATO F-16 fighter aircraft with the Tu-154 aircraft of Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu was published by the Zvezda TV channel. The video shows how the F-16 with the included air navigation lights flies up to Shoigu's plane from the left side. After that, a Russian Su-27 fighter from the escort approaches the NATO fighter and, shaking its wings, demonstrates missiles. F-16 goes to the side.
At the same time, NATO called the response actions of the pilots of the Russian aircraft and escort fighters "professional and safe."
On the eve of Fox News, citing two military sources informed about another approach - according to him, a Russian Su-27 fighter flew at a distance of about five feet (about 1.5 meters) from a US Air Force Boeing RC-135 reconnaissance aircraft. According to the channel, the incident occurred over the Baltic Sea on Monday, June 19. It was noted that such a rapprochement between two aircraft is considered dangerous.
As the missile-equipped Russian fighter jet moved towards the American plane, the sources said it performed "provocative" maneuvers.
In turn, the Ministry of Defense reported that Russian Su-27 fighters intercepted two US Air Force RC-135 reconnaissance aircraft over the neutral waters of the Baltic Sea. According to the Russian military department, on June 19, domestic airspace control systems detected an air target that was moving towards the Russian border.
Later, the Russian military found out that it was an American RC-135 reconnaissance aircraft. During the escort, he tried to get close to the Su-27, "performing a provocative turn in the direction" of the fighter. The pilot reacted to the maneuver of the American reconnaissance and continued to accompany the RC-135 until he changed the direction of the flight, they reported to the Ministry of Defense.
As promised, we continue about the plane of the Ministry of Defense in the Seychelles. It's very funny how, after a week of silence, Shoigu's department began to respond to us with posts by paid bloggers and LifeNews reports.
General refrain of the answer: AAAAA!!! You spelled everything wrong. This is not corruption at all. It was not the generals who flew Shoigu on a plane to hang out in the Seychelles!
It was the oligarch-politician Prokhorov who took the girls to his party on the plane Shoigu (sometimes the word "girls" is replaced by brighter epithets).
As evidence, "according to Lifenews" and these "photos of girls" are given.
The great thing is that these posts usually stand between posts on the topic "We will show the pendos", "Forward, Russia", "Glory to the brave military" and "I will tie myself with a St. George's ribbon."
I'm sorry, but I can hardly imagine that the "pendos" plane of the Minister of Defense takes girls to parties in the Seychelles. It is difficult to consider this a source of pride for the armed forces. It is possible that this is exactly what happens in the armed forces of Albania, but we are a country with nuclear weapons and claiming global leadership.
You can't just take and ride the girls on the plane of the Minister of Defense.
1. No one disputes that we were right and the flight was not official.
2. The question of who was on board remains open. Generals? Girls? General girls? Generals girls?
3. It also remains an open question whether the flight of girls and other generals on this plane is legal?
Let's move on to a review of some of the facts that we established after the publication of the investigation.
1. As part of the units of the central subordination of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, there is an 800th air base (AvB) (military unit 15565), which is based in Chkalovsky: previously it was the 8th Special Purpose Air Division, which in 2009 became 6991 AVB, which in 2010 became 800 AvB. The 800 air base includes the 223 flight detachment, which can lease some of the aircraft that belong to this air base. 800 ABB through the 223rd flight unit performs commercial flights under the CHD code (CHD). Military flights are operated under the RFF code (RFF) - the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.
So, yes, we agreed, indeed, some aircraft can be used for commercial flights.
2. It is known for certain that the RA-85155 aircraft was transferred to the Ministry of Defense in April 2010 and is intended for the Minister of Defense. A distinctive feature of this particular side is the livery inscription - Russian Air Force, which, by its very appearance, indicates the military nature of the side.
Moreover, the aircraft is equipped with flight and navigation equipment, special communications equipment that meets the needs of the RF Ministry of Defense.
3. It is noteworthy that after the publication, all available scanty data about the aircraft was deleted from flightradar, which is very unusual. Most likely this was done at the request of the military.
4. Could the 223rd flight detachment carry generals and girls to ride in violation of the law? At least they've been seen doing it before. We have a report of the Accounts Chamber for 1997-1998 on the inspection of the 8th Special Purpose Air Division and the 223rd Flight Detachment in particular, and there is a full bouquet of violations.
The even chamber conducted an inspection of the 223rd flight detachment twice. The audit materials of 1998-99 shed light on a whole range of violations: waste, inefficient use of aircraft, transportation of favorite sports teams, etc.
And, surprise, these violations are exactly the same as what we accuse the MoD of today. All the same misuse, waste, etc. In 2013, another inspection was carried out. The Accounts Chamber reported on its results in December, but they did not publish the audit materials. We are confident that many interesting questions will be answered in this document. Therefore, we demand the publication of these materials. We have every right to know how taxpayers' funds are being used.
5. What should be done to charter a 223LO board?
If the 223rd Flight Detachment is going to send its aircraft somewhere, then for this it needs to coordinate with the air traffic controllers, airfield support, crew support, etc. - all this is called the organization and provision of air transportation of passengers, baggage and cargo. The contract for this is concluded through public procurement.
We called 223 LO to charter exactly the RA-85155, we were sent to an agent - a company called Themis. That is, it is Themis that is engaged in the chartering of this board. However, on the website of Themis itself, not only this particular aircraft, but also the Tu-154M aircraft in general, was not found. And at the moment, the list of boards has been completely removed from the site. It is noteworthy that the 223rd Flight Detachment was completely closed after Lent.
Nevertheless, Themis replied to an official request from the media that this aircraft carried 40 passengers and 3 tons of stage equipment within the specified time frame and offered to request a list of passengers at Vnukovo-3.
6. Despite such a cheerful answer, we did not find the RA-85155 board in the lists of aircraft that are transferred under the control of Themis. Yes, and the opposite would be strange - this is the Minister's plane.
7. Lifenews reports that Andrey Makarevich flew on this plane, to which Znak.com reasonably decided to ask Makarevich whether the trip took place. Andrei Makarevich confirmed that he spent the May holidays in the Seychelles. “Yes, we flew there, however, not on the plane in question, but on a regular, scheduled flight,” Mikhail celebrated his birthday (on May 3, Prokhorov turned 49 years old - ed.) Say which plane Prokhorov flew there, I can’t - when we arrived, he was already there.
That is, Makarevich did not fly with the girls-generals.
Thus, we fix the intermediate stage of our investigation. We have two forks:
a) generals or girls.
b) legal or illegal.
Four combinations are possible, but we are satisfied with only "legally generals".
"Generals illegally" and "girls illegally" are a criminal offence.
"Girls are legal" - well, this is a political question about the prestige of the country and a question about the quality of the work of special services.
Questions to which we are now seeking answers from Minister Shoigu:
1. On what basis is an aircraft equipped with flight and navigation equipment and special means of communication that meet the needs of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation handed over for the transportation of girls (if they were)? Doesn't this threaten the security of the Russian Federation? Could, for example, such shipments be a cover for the installation of spy equipment?
2. Are there any legal grounds for renting this particular aircraft? Based on the foregoing, we conclude that there are no such grounds.
3. If the Minister's aircraft is leased for commercial lease without legal grounds, then who takes the money from this lease?
Well, I immediately answer the question: why did you cling to the plane? no other problems?
There are other problems, but, no matter how ridiculous it sounds, when heifers are taken to the beach by the minister’s plane, this is an indicator of such a mess in the country, which makes this trifle a system-forming problem. This is an important defect of our state.
We want the planes of the Ministry of Defense to carry generals, officers, soldiers and Gattling guns. Let the girls be transported by commercial aviation.
Another incident in the airspace of the Baltic Sea, this time personally touched Sergei Shoigu. The NATO F-16 fighter tried to approach the transport board, on which the Russian Minister of Defense was at that moment. Even Russian escort fighters had to intervene in this process.
NATO F-16 fighter to the aircraft of Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu.
“Our fighter quite transparently hinted to the“ partner in the fight against terrorism ”that you don’t need to approach this car”
The minister's liner, flying to Kaliningrad, was accompanied by an escort of Su-27 naval aviation fighters. NATO planes, among which was the F-16, also tried to follow the minister. The incident was not limited to this, and the F-16 went to rendezvous with Shoigu's side. However, a Su-27 fighter stood in its way, which showed its armament to the aircraft of the alliance by swinging its wings. After that, the F-16 fighter retired. Through the porthole, a video of the approach of the F-16 was filmed from Shoigu's plane.
Shoigu himself, commenting on what happened, noted: "The situation that is developing at our western borders is." “This is due to the increased military activity of NATO countries in Eastern Europe,” the Minister of Defense stated.
The Minister pointed out: the North Atlantic Alliance is increasing its presence in the Baltic countries, strengthening and developing their military facilities, such as seaports, airfields, etc., ostensibly to protect against Russia.
The F-16 maneuver has already been commented on in the State Duma. This is a completely abnormal phenomenon, especially in relation to an official state person of such a rank. This is a provocation,” said State Duma deputy Colonel General Hero of the Soviet Union Nikolai Antoshkin, who was quoted by TASS. The parliamentarian stressed that there had never been such cases, “when the Minister of Defense was flying, he was accompanied by a NATO fighter”. He noted that the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Ministry of Defense "will send appropriate notes on this issue."
"The Su-27 made a transparent hint - you should not approach"
“The NATO Air Force fighter was performing a routine combat training task of reconnaissance and identification of an aircraft,” Army General Pyotr Deinekin, former Air Force Commander-in-Chief Hero of Russia, explained to the VZGLYAD newspaper.
“I am sure that this pilot did not know that the Russian Minister of Defense was flying on a transport plane as a passenger,” the interlocutor emphasized. “As for the actions of our fighter, he quite transparently hinted to his “partner in the fight against terrorism” that this machine should not be approached, but one should behave respectfully,” Deinekin said.
Regarding the existence of any instructions in this regard, he noted: “You cannot write instructions for all cases. And in a particular episode, the pilot acted with dignity. And in his place, I would have done the same. “And if I were in my place, I would encourage him,” added the former commander-in-chief of the Air Force.
The Su-27 acted in a standard manner, said Vasily Kashin, an expert at the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies, in a commentary to the VZGLYAD newspaper.
“The aircraft provided security for a high-ranking official,” the military expert said. “He showed that he keeps the situation under control in case the other side suddenly tries to act provocatively in some way, for example, trying to get too close to our transport aircraft.”
“The Baltic is a zone where it is very tense now, patrols are constantly carried out, the parties are watching each other,” he added. According to the military expert, such incidents should continue to be expected.
Not the first dangerous encounter
The number of incidents with NATO aircraft has increased dramatically in recent years. Just on Tuesday, the media reported that the Su-27 was forced to take off to intercept an American RC-135 reconnaissance aircraft over the neutral waters of the Baltic Sea. The RC-135 made a dangerous turn towards the Su-27. The Russian plane reacted to it and in response approached the American liner at a distance of up to one and a half meters. The Su-27 continued to follow the RC-135 until it began to move away from the Russian border.
In the United States, such actions were called unsafe. In response, the Ministry of Defense recalled that it was the RC-135 that was the first to perform a provocative turn, so the Su-27 pilot was forced to respond.
On June 6, a Russian Su-27 fighter was again forced to intercept and escort a US Air Force B-52 strategic bomber flying along the Russian border over the waters of the Baltic.